Tuesday, April 8, 2014

Vitamin C you're taking it but not enough of it

So for this post I want to focus on a critically important vitamin that everyone is probably taking but not maybe at the appropriate doses for their body.

No, it is not the fat soluble paleo darlings vitamin A and D, which I am sure probably most people are probably deficient in. It's not even the Weston A. Pricer's favorite vitamin K2, which is another fat soluble vitamin. No this vitamin is the all to critical vitamin C.


The reason I am deciding to write about this is not to long ago Ameer Rosic of the Optimal Health Show had a podcast with a naturopathic doctor [N.D.] about the importance of vitmain C.

Although, I am a fan of natural medicine and believe it has plenty of benefits I sometimes am a tad skeptical of some NDs. I myself have seen an N.D. for a period of time and definitely felt like she was helpful. However, why I get skeptical is because at times it appears that these people as well as chiros and etc push some crazy things that flat out have no science that can back them and plenty to support why they don't work. 

Mostly, I am thinking of things like blood type dieting, rife machines and coffee enemas for cancer. That being said I am not discounting these professions because there are certainly aspects of health they may consider that your typical M.D. and D.O. may not consider which can also have their own selective biases.

I for one have benefited tremendously from seeing a chiropractor and obviously advocate based on a series of older posts that I am still trying to get around to finishing.

Simply being objective here and not kowtowing to any dogma.

Anyways, getting off track, but Rosic's podcast talked about vitamin C to bowel tolerance. The principal sounded interesting as well as somewhat sound although uncomfortable. I sort of dismissed this as something not worth me trying.

I feel like everyone knows of the importance of vitamin C and really taking so much of it till I pooped was most likely the last way I would want to consider getting it. I figure I would just up my fruit game through citrus and berry fruits since I wasn't exactly eating them in plenty already.

So, this vitamin C thing hasn't been on my mind for a while until the other day researching about candida on Paul Jaminet's, PHD website in which I stumbled across two articles about vitamin C. One being about bowel tolerance.

Jaminet is smart so I figured if he is saying something then I may want to consider it. Not to mention with me currently having a giant wound on my forehead vitamin C could be beneficial for collagen synthesis and my wound healing.

Vitamin C all of a sudden seems a whole hell of a lot more interesting and relevant to my life at the moment.

From Jaminet's post Fighting Viral Infections by Vitamin C at Bowel Tolerance:
A few unconventional doctors have generated most of the clinical experience with high-dose vitamin C therapy.

Fred R. Klenner, a general practitioner from Reidsville, North Carolina, was the pioneer. In the 1940s and 1950s, he found that viral diseases, notably pneumonia and polio, could be cured or greatly improved by intravenous sodium ascorbate of up to 200 g/day. (He favored the pH-neutral sodium ascorbate over conventional acidic versions.) Vitamin C was first isolated in 1932 and first synthesized in 1934, so Klenner was a very early adopter. [3]

Klenner’s maxim was that the patient should “get large doses of vitamin C in all pathological conditions while the physician ponders the diagnosis.” [4]
Irwin Stone and Linus Pauling popularized vitamin C therapies in the late 1960s and early 1970s.

Persuaded by Stone and Pauling, a doctor named Robert Cathcart, who had previously invented an improved artificial hip, began using high-dose vitamin C when he took up general practice in Incline Village, Nevada.
He soon made an interesting discovery:
In 1970, I discovered that the sicker a patient was, the more ascorbic acid he would tolerate by mouth before diarrhea was produced. At least 80% of adult patients will tolerate 10 to 15 grams of ascorbic acid … The astonishing finding was that all patients … can take greater amounts of the substance orally without having diarrhea when ill or under stress. [5]
There is more useful information but Jaminet does mention why it is supposedly difficult to do clinical trials on this sort of stuff
Cathcart notes:
Either this titration method or large intravenous doses are absolutely necessary to obtain excellent results. Studies of lesser amounts are almost useless. The oral method cannot by its very nature be investigated by double blind studies because no placebo will mimic this bowel tolerance phenomenon. [5]
So apparently part of the traditional way of doing things has it's limitations. That's great but seeing how this could largely be a very cheap hack and relatively safe it may be worth taking a Saturday to have vitamin C induced diarrhea.

But aside from the obvious things like helping with viral infections and the now forgotten condition called scurvy C seems to be helpful with get this pain tolerance.

In a guest post on Jaminet's website by some guy named Kamal Patel in his article Vitamin C: Should you take it Befor and After Surgery? Part 1

Patel talks about a pain condition called Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy [RSD] and how C is an affective treatment for this.

Seems very interesting
Aside from antioxidant mechanisms (stabilizing free radicals that would normally damage lipid membranes and microcirculation), vitamin C can help normalize pain-inhibiting pathways involving dopamine, NMDA, and other neurotransmitters, and has shown promise for a variety of pain conditions in animal models. A higher vitamin C dose of 2 grams was shown to reduce morphine use after surgery. Reducing opioid intake post-surgically should be approached with caution, and always listen to your doctor. That being said, some people can’t tolerate opioids, are at risk of addiction, or just want to avoid the constipation that often accompanies painkiller use. In the above trial, patients took it orally just before surgery, as vitamin C peaks four hours after administration which coincides with waking from surgery.
and for those vain types
The benefits of vitamin C extend to less critical conditions as well. After laser surgery for skin, topical vitamin C reduced skin injury and restored acidic skin pH. Acidic skin provides defense against microbes, and inflamed skin can have a higher than normal pH. Vitamin C also has anti-acne effects (possibly by lowering sebum secretion and preventing water loss from skin) and reduces pigmentation (e.g. for freckle reduction or to help remove skin marks).
Let's look at the issue of cortisol and stress and the often misunderstood adrenal fatigue. Vitamin C could play a critical role in this, in fact if you are tired instead of slamming cups of coffee you may want to consider taking Vitamin C or doing something like a Meyer's Cocktail which is vitamin C and B12

According to an article from Psychology Today
Earlier studies showed that vitamin C abolished secretion of cortisol in animals that had been subjected to repeated stress. Cortisol is a hormone released by the adrenal glands in response to stress. Once it gets into the bloodstream, it is responsible for relaying the news of stress to all parts of the body and mind.
So apparently C is good for just about everything in your day to day life. What can't this shit do? Well I've read that it may limit your gains in the gym if you are exercising hard. That being said apparently we all need to be taking more. So much more that we are pooping in our pants. Yuck!!!
 

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